Saturday, May 06, 2006

Breaking: US and UK soldiers killed in two seperate helicopter incidents (video)

A British helicopter has crashed in Basra, with the Ministry of Defence confirming there are "casualties". Police in the southern Iraqi city said the aircraft had crashed into a house after being hit by a rocket.



The MoD said there were casualties but could give no further details. Iraqi firefighters told Reuters news agency they had seen four bodies at the scene.

British soldiers deployed in the city sealed off the area as hundreds of Iraqis rushed to see the incident. The MoD said it was too early to know what had caused the crash, but they were investigating all possibilities.

Video footage from Iraqi television showed orange flames and large plumes of black smoke curling into the sky. British troops were seen running through the streets, firing shots into the air.

The footage also showed hundreds of Iraqis near the scene of the crash waving their arms in the air and throwing stones.
Video from BBC is just coming onto the news wire Here. (windows media player required)

Meanwhile Ten US soldiers have been killed after their helicopter crashed in Afghanistan late on Friday night, officials from the US-led coalition said. The CH-47 Chinook came down in Kunar province near a "mountaintop landing zone" 240km (150 miles) east of Kabul.

The soldiers were reportedly involved in operations against the Taleban, although military officials said the crash was not caused by enemy fire.

11 Comments:

Blogger verniciousknids said...

Hi, I just came across your site courtesy of the "next blog" button. I'll definitely be back!

May 06, 2006 2:27 pm  
Blogger cervaggio said...

nice site ..... enjoyed it

May 06, 2006 7:56 pm  
Blogger Writer said...

Good blog from what ive seen of it so far.

Regarding the British helicopter crash and the crowds cheering and the Iraq War in general - 90% of the insurgents in Iraq are Iraqi nationals (who may or may not identify with a relgion first) while only a small minority attack Iraqi civilians. Even most of the foreign fighters attack Iraqi soldiers or coalition forces. Whenever Coalition officers boast of the insurgents they have killed in operations, they are boasting about the deaths of Iraqi militants. Its therefore a sort of Orwellian doublethink when officials of the US or UK say that thier actions are for the good of the Iraqis. They are fighitng the Iraqis!

I'm a Brit myself, and before 2003 I was considering a career in the armed forces. Now at university (studying international politics, including Islamism, terrorism, Middle Eastern politics, ethics in War, US policy) I have series doubts about joining an organisation in which I could find myself being sent to Iraq, to fight a people who have every legitimate reason to fight against the coalition.

I have not yet had time to explore the political orientation of this blog - realist, idealist, pro/anti-war, impartial, neoconservative, isolationist - or yet to discover your definition of 'terrorism'. Yet ill make a note of this blog for future personal use.

Looks good.

May 06, 2006 10:43 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also forgot to add - they were British soldiers killed in the crash. This was not a terrorist attack - it was a legitimate act of war. Should this really be on a blod entitled terrorism news? Unless you take the view that the war in iraq is a war against terrorism, something which I utterly reject.

May 07, 2006 3:48 am  
Blogger Porcupinetaxi said...

If the Iraquis don't want us there, then why did they cheer and greet us with flowers at the beginning of the liberation?

May 07, 2006 3:50 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

Anonymous

We post all sorts of subjects here on terrorism news. I can assure you that your definition of terrorism would not differ from mine in any major respect.

I take the dictionary defintion of a terrorist not the psuedo Bush definition of terrorism that is not even accepted by the united nations.

Check out the archives there is plenty here to help you understand our view.

Porcupinetaxi

Your joking surely ! Have you never changed the channel from Fox News .

How can I possibly argue with such a strongly held belief in propaganda..

I wish you luck

May 07, 2006 4:09 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

and writer/anon

Sorry for the short reply it has been a busy night (04:20 am) I look forward to your future visits and insights . feel free to explore the site and what it is we are trying to do here.

There is the site email over there on the right. If you are unsure of where we stand in regard to your questions feel free to contact the site and I will respond in kind

May 07, 2006 4:27 am  
Anonymous JMN (the Writer) said...

90% of the insurgents are Iraqis. That means that they have public support. Attacks of coalition forces is a daily occurance, all over Iraq. The brunt of the insurgency is being felt by Iraqi Security Forces.

Yes, some greeted forces during the invasion. They opposed Saddam Hussein and some welcomed the invasion (the dead don't get a say in it however). I wont go into the other debate over the best thing to do to someone coming at you in a M1A2 Abrahms - smile or shoot?

But, since the removal of Saddam, the atrocities, the lack of development (yes hampered by insrugents, but a consequence of 13 years of embargoes and two wars) the lack of security (due to too few troops on the ground - thanks to Donald Rumsfield), the failure to find Weapons of Mass Destruction, Bush's insistance that Iraq is a battlegournd between the 'forces of democracy' (ie: Americans) and 'forces of evil' and 'terrorists' (ie: Iraqis), government death squads, accused but unverified CIA/PSC involvement in terrorism / sectarian violence, mass global public outcry, Najaf, Falluja, the continuous occupation - don't you think that America has lost any legitimacy is had during the past 3 years????

Regime change was the easy part, and something welcome by the Iraqs. Occupation was not welcomed.

Plus, only a very very small minority actually cheered coalition forces on. 30,000 were unable too.

Many people in France, Poland, Belgium, Austria, welcomed the Nazi's. It didnt mean that they liked them. Some collaborated. But the majority opposed. Civilian by day, guerrilla by night.

oh, and Fox News doesnt show the videos of Iraqi civilians cheering in front of burning humvees, dead American's. Nor does it show videos of Iraqi children throwing stones at American troops just as Palestinian children throw rocks at Israeli tanks.

What do you think Porcupinetaxi? That 200,000 insurgnets cross in from Syria during the night and go back the following day, after wrecking havoc on Iraqi civilians and killed American troops? The insurgency is a peoples army.

This is not a war between Americans and militants with Iraqis at the centre. This is a war between Americans and Iraqi's with the Iraqi government at the centre and extremists at the fringes.


The parallels with Vietnam are outstanding. But the lesson has not been learned.

May 07, 2006 5:25 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im a Brit by the way, so I have the luxary of being free from propaganda and manipulation that, I feel, Americans are unconscously subjected to.

May 07, 2006 5:27 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

JMN

check out some of the comments on the 'Oh, Say, Can You See Xenophobia in a Land of Immigrants?' Thread

For a perfect example of the point you potray

Here

May 07, 2006 5:37 am  
Blogger DJEB said...

Laughing hard again! Porcupinetaxi, you are confusing what Rummy said would happen with what actually happened. In your defence, I think you watch American TV.

May 08, 2006 3:11 pm  

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