Tuesday, December 06, 2005

Jerusalem Post sensationalize story about nuclear Iran (what a surprise)

Read the original article at Raw Story

An article in the Jerusalem Post trumpeted by the conservative Drudge Report grossly sensationalizes the comments of Mohamed El-Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The piece, titled "El Baradei: Iran only months away from a bomb," takes a comment Baradei made to the British newspaper The Independent completely out of context.

According to the Independent, Baradei said he wasn't sure if the Iranians were building a nuclear weapon:

Although IAEA officials have said it would take at least two years for Natanz to become fully operational, Mr ElBaradei believes that once the facility is up and running, the Iranians could be "a few months" away from a nuclear weapon. "That's why there is the concern of the international community about Iran," he said, "because lots of people feel it could be a dual purpose programme".

Did he believe the Iranians were building a nuclear weapon? "The jury's out," he said. "It's difficult to read their intention. We're still going through the programme to make sure it's all for peaceful purposes.

"I know they are trying to acquire the full fuel cycle. I know that acquiring the full fuel cycle means that a country is months away from nuclear weapons, and that applies to Iran and everybody else."

The Jerusalem Post, meanwhile, turned Baradei on his head -- not only ignoring the fact that he said he wasn't sure Iran was developing a nuclear weapon, but also adding "will" where Baradei had said "could"

now read the twisted version

IAEA chairman Muhammad ElBaradei on Monday confirmed Israel's assessment that Iran is only a few months away from creating an atomic bomb.

If Teheran indeed resumed its uranium enrichment in other plants, as threatened, it will take it only "a few months" to produce a nuclear bomb, El-Baradei told The Independent.

However, ElBaradei didn't confirm Israel's assessment, since - in the worst case scenario - Iran is two years and a few months away from being able to acquire the full fuel cycle.

A lie can work its way around the world before the truth can even put its boots on , and this lie is out in the Muslim hating anti Arab right wing world , and will now be repeated as truth.

Why on earth anyone would take an article from an Israeli news source on this subject as evidence is beyond me . surely it is obvious that their perspective would be motivated by more then honesty.

Iran prints articles every day saying they are NOT building a bomb , and of course this is taken with little credibility , so why would that not be spotted the other way round ?

finally for those that which to check the lies for themselves here is the orignal article Independent and here are the lies based on the Independents article Jpost


Blogger DJEB said...

Liarrific fibbing to be sure. But I'd almost be disappointed if they didn't do it.

December 06, 2005 9:00 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

hehe exactly , anyone with a brain would expect it ,

i dont blame them for trying , i just dont understand those that just rinse and repeat the claims

still its out now and the right will continue to rinse and repeat this story for ever more

December 06, 2005 9:04 am  
Blogger DJEB said...

And the Right people will believe it. Makes me want to hit my head against the wall. You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool the Right, or something like that.

December 06, 2005 9:14 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

I was going to say something similar

al-qaeda and saddam
saddam and 9/11
Iraq and WMD

dont you get sick of correcting each myth day after day . every time i go to a right wing blog i keep having to point out the same lies over and over .

I am covinced the right has a plan to drive us all insain by making the world repeat the same thing until we give up and sign ourselves up for the next availible labottomy

December 06, 2005 9:27 am  
Blogger DJEB said...

I don't go to right-wing web site and I don't debate them - I don't have time to waste on obvious fallacies. Right-wing thought is quite literally a mental illness (see Jack Glaser, Arie Kruglanski et al did in their paper Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition), and I don't have the time or training to deal with it.

December 06, 2005 9:33 am  
Blogger DJEB said...


December 06, 2005 9:35 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

ah wisdom and common sense

I have yet to learn to ignore the righties . I have just reached the point of refusing to debate with those who are still repeating Mohammed Atta stories and laughable claims about uranium and Niger , but i am so easily dragged into correcting ignorance .

My heart tells me it is pointless my fingers end up typing anyway

oh well

December 06, 2005 9:43 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent find

December 06, 2005 10:32 am  
Blogger DJEB said...

Ah, Mohammed Atta. I remember the days... Say, remember when the Quebec City protestors were going to throw AIDS tainted blood on the police? Those were the days, eh? Of course, that was before the world began on September 11th, 2001.

December 06, 2005 11:17 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

You mean there was a world before 9/11 ? :-) noooo , next you will be telling me that this terrorism thing already existed in this pre 9/11 world

get away with you !

December 06, 2005 11:45 pm  
Blogger G_in_AL said...

I read this entire thing, and now I have to wonder how you will pretty much discredit this entire thing.

The guys said:
"I know they are trying to acquire the full fuel cycle. I know that acquiring the full fuel cycle means that a country is months away from nuclear weapons, and that applies to Iran and everybody else."

Sure, the JP sensationalized it, but exacly where did they lie? And now, to boot, are you implying that many of your "sources" have also sensationalized facts and slanted views to fit their agenda?

YOu propped this up on my site, and on here as if they lied, or that El Baradei didnt say this at all?

December 07, 2005 3:43 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

G , how can you miss it

the JP clearly says "IAEA chairman Muhammad ElBaradei on Monday confirmed Israel's assessment that Iran is only a few months away from creating an atomic bomb. "

Muhammad has never uttered those words ,

he has never said that Iran IS building a bomb at all never mind only a few months away

he has no evidence that Iran IS building a nuke and its his job to check

the Independent never printed the words they claim "El-Baradei told The Independent. "

if the JP are not a buch of liars then you will be able to show me where the IAEA has ever said that Iran is building a bomb at all ?

the JP clearly says " Iran is only a few months away from creating an atomic bomb. "

so show me where the IAEA have ever said in an interview with anyone that " Iran is only a few months away from creating an atomic bomb. "

G its a pure and simple lie , fiction , no base in reality ,he never said those words and the JP claimed he did

what possible excuse can you have that this is not pure lies

there is a big difference between highlighting key points and actually taking the words of the head of the IAEA and changing them to words you prefer

he has never said Iran is building a bomb at all , cant you see that !

they are liars

December 07, 2005 4:17 am  
Blogger DJEB said...

_H_, if you want to take the Logical Voice posting policy and post it on your site word for word, you are more than welcome. I think you will find rules 1, 2 and 5 most useful.

December 11, 2005 5:16 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

Thanks Djeb i will probably do that . , I also like your code of conduct for effective rational discussion which i have seen you post .... somewhere ..

I post it here for anyone that wants to know what i am talking about


December 11, 2005 5:51 am  
Blogger DJEB said...

It's based on the excellent (but pricy) book by Edward Damer.

December 11, 2005 2:11 pm  
Blogger DJEB said...

Regarding g's comments, they were a "figurative measure." Not meant to be taken seriously, let alone read.

December 14, 2005 6:11 pm  

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