Wednesday, September 21, 2005

How many bullets does it take to defeat an insurgency

The "cakewalk war" is now two and one-half years old. US casualties (dead and wounded) number 20,000. As 20,000 is the number of Iraqi insurgents according to US military commanders, each insurgent is responsible for one US casualty.

US troops in Iraq number about 150,000. Obviously, US troops have not inflicted 150,000 casualties on the Iraqi insurgents. US troops have perhaps inflicted 150,000 casualties on the Iraqi civilian population, primarily women and children who are the "collateral damage" of the "righteous" and "virtuous" US invasion that is spreading civilian deaths all over Mesopotamia in the name of democracy.What could the US have possibly done to give America a worse name than to invade Iraq and murder its citizens .

According to the September 1 Manufacturing & Technology News, the Government Accounting Office has reported that over the course of the cakewalk war, the US military’s use of small caliber ammunition has risen to 1.8 billion rounds. Think about that number. If there are 20,000 insurgents, it means US troops have fired 90,000 rounds at each insurgent.

Very few have been hit. We don’t know how many. To avoid the analogy with Vietnam, until last week the US military studiously avoided body counts. If 2,000 insurgents have been killed, each death required 900,000 rounds of ammunition.The combination of US government owned ammo plants and those of US commercial producers together cannot make bullets as fast as US troops are firing them.

The Bush administration has had to turn to foreign producers such as Israel Military Industries. Think about that. Hollowed out US industry cannot produce enough ammunition to defeat a 20,000 man insurgency.


Blogger G_in_AL said...

5 bullets would do.

One to kill Zarqawi. The next to kill his "successor", and then one more to knock off the "next successor".

Then put one in the head of theocracy in Iran, and one in the head of theocracy in Syria.

After that... it would desolve.

anyway, I will quit being an ass now.

September 21, 2005 6:55 pm  
Blogger Hype said...

One day Gump we might be on the receiving end of such behavior. How would it feel to have your leaders killed? How would it feel to have people from your neighborhood shot and killed because they spoke up politically. Their government is their business. End of story. We have no right to tell other countries how to govern themselves. Your comments are fascist.

You just advocated a style of government that gave Hitler the power to do what he did.


September 21, 2005 7:47 pm  
Blogger Bassizzzt said...

"Hollowed out US industry cannot produce enough ammunition to defeat a 20,000 man insurgency."

We can thank the American Liberal gun control freaks for that; other than that, you're right.

September 22, 2005 1:36 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

you will have to help me out here Bassizzzt , not being american , i am probably getting confused

what does thia have to do with the "liberal gun control freaks" ?


September 22, 2005 2:45 am  
Blogger Oroboros said...

I'm afraid that the idea may not be to "defeat" the insurgency. The numbers you put forward, 900,000 rounds "per death", (not to mention all the other accoutrements of insurgency-busting) seems terribly inefficient. One would assume that various contractors (Israel Military Industries, et all) must be paid to supply these munitions. There must someone who stands to make a pretty penny off of an inefficient war. Given the recent development of British forces *creating* an insurgency, (
the likelihood of the existence of a agenda to squeeze every defense contract dollar out of this engagement seems quite high.

- Oroboros -

September 22, 2005 4:37 am  
Blogger G_in_AL said...

Hype... "they spoke up politically."

Um, they are blowing people up, not just "speaking out"

And you must have missed the part where I said "I will quit being an ass"

Call me a Nazi if you want, but it only makes you look even dumber... hard to believe as that is.

September 22, 2005 1:57 pm  
Blogger Hype said...

Actually if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... Your comments, I believe show your true feelings. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it. I would never say something like that. That is a horrible thing to say. Gump is like Pat Robertson. Maybe his heart is in the right place, but his brain isn't wired right.

Blowing up people and terrorism is a way to protest. It is violent. I don't support that, but none the less it exists. Killing yourself can be an act of protest. If you don't understand that then that explains alot about you.


September 22, 2005 3:40 pm  
Blogger Hype said...

Gump knows very little about people, different cultures and ways of life...

And to top that, he doesn't believe in evolution, natural selection, global warming, peace, fiscal responsibility and whole lotta other things I don't have time to get into right now.

I am still waiting on him to say Bush is a failure. He won't even though he knows it is true.


September 22, 2005 3:42 pm  
Blogger _H_ said...

Oroboros :

thanks for your comment :

you said " There must someone who stands to make a pretty penny off of an inefficient war."

spot on in my view , there are far to many people(and companies) who have plenty to gain from this continuation of this war . Worrying indeed

you said "Given the recent development of British forces *creating* an insurgency,"

yes i have read a lot on this concept but have as yet refrained from posting on it , there are alot of strange activities that is for sure , and it makes sense logically to come to that conclusion , but for me the jury is still out , though i must admit i am leaning your way

Hype :

you said "
Blowing up people and terrorism is a way to protest"

yup , the problem some people have on the right , is they think that to understand why someone blows themselves up is to justify it

It is not , it is the first and most important step to understand what makes a person so angry they wish to do such a thing

if someone Murders a child we want the police to leave no stone unturned to find out who and why they did it , But when it comes to terrorism , suddenly we are expected not to ask the very same questions or we are seen as justifying ... how odd

are the Police justfying murder when they investigate why the killer did what he did ?

September 22, 2005 5:13 pm  
Blogger Hype said...

I agree. Learning the true motives up people will be the answer to this problem. If the truth ever comes out.


September 22, 2005 5:20 pm  
Anonymous Nostradamnthem said...

Rarely is the question asked: "Don't they teach our military to shoot straight instead of spraying bullets?"

September 23, 2005 5:19 pm  

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