Thursday, August 11, 2005

Not in my name

with all the recent opinion about muslims going around .. so often people miss what is being done by muslims and what is being said

so it is about time that sites like this were mentioned more often


Blogger G_in_AL said...

did you read that post H?

I still dont think Islam as it exists today can ever be moderate. A change in the theology is needed, not moderation of existing interpretation.

August 12, 2005 4:07 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

yes .. but i really feel that you need to read the words of those that are muslims to judge G .. i dont feel that outside looking in is any kind of rule

the majority of muslim clerics teach peace .. sadly it is the minority that get all the press

and as i have said many times .. you can take any meaning you want from the texts and many people have warped the view

for every nasty word people claim to be in the quran i have seen just as many that talk of peace and how wrong it is to take a life .. any life

these people who dont see that are not true muslims .. they are warped G ..

the logic applied to muslims these days is very similar to the logic some feminists apply to men

99 % of murders are comitted by men
99% of rapes are committed by men

so therefore ALL men are evil

no the fact is the terrorists are using a warped version of islam .. you really really need to seperate these groups from the faithfull believers who have no desire to take over the world

anymore then you desire to bring about revelations

August 12, 2005 6:51 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

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August 12, 2005 6:51 am  
Blogger _H_ said...

previous deleted by me due to duplication

August 12, 2005 6:53 am  
Blogger G_in_AL said...

Ok, H... lets sit on this one and see how much of an impact the "moderate" muslims have. I am not sure what support you are wanting them to get from folks... but I tell you what. If they really do not condone this stuff, then lets see them start cutting off finances and support. Lets see them start issuing more Fatwas (spelling). Not just one a year or so, but like one a week against this stuff. Let see some webcasts of their own. Lets see them hit the extremist websites and overload them with the "message of peace."

When this happens, I will believe that A.) They exist, and B.) they really want this to stop.

But until then, I will see this crap as nothing but deceptive PR.

August 12, 2005 9:02 pm  
Blogger _H_ said...

G if you sit on this one and do nothing but complain then as you say .. nothing will change

you know G i am white / western / non religious

and i hate to say this but with your attitude to the moderates being on the verge of racsist

i would not be suprised if they join up with the extremists you think they are

and then you will say "see i told you" and not even spot that you had something to do with it

August 12, 2005 9:15 pm  
Blogger G_in_AL said...

H, I know that my views are getting borderline. I dont like it, but they keep showing me example after example of why those views may not be too far off. Racism is something I have always deplored, when I lived with my mother in a "welfare appartement" and had many minority friends, I learned never to use race as a qualifier. In the Marines I learned that they guy next to you will save your life reguardless of race/religion. But the rate things have gone, Islam hasnt done much to try and break the mold here. The "moderates" you speak of are too far and few between. They will not fight for what THEY belive in, and instead allow radicals to put a stamp on their religion.

August 13, 2005 5:23 am  

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