yes .. but i really feel that you need to read the words of those that are muslims to judge G .. i dont feel that outside looking in is any kind of rule
the majority of muslim clerics teach peace .. sadly it is the minority that get all the press
and as i have said many times .. you can take any meaning you want from the texts and many people have warped the view
for every nasty word people claim to be in the quran i have seen just as many that talk of peace and how wrong it is to take a life .. any life
these people who dont see that are not true muslims .. they are warped G ..
the logic applied to muslims these days is very similar to the logic some feminists apply to men
99 % of murders are comitted by men 99% of rapes are committed by men
so therefore ALL men are evil
no the fact is the terrorists are using a warped version of islam .. you really really need to seperate these groups from the faithfull believers who have no desire to take over the world
anymore then you desire to bring about revelations
Ok, H... lets sit on this one and see how much of an impact the "moderate" muslims have. I am not sure what support you are wanting them to get from folks... but I tell you what. If they really do not condone this stuff, then lets see them start cutting off finances and support. Lets see them start issuing more Fatwas (spelling). Not just one a year or so, but like one a week against this stuff. Let see some webcasts of their own. Lets see them hit the extremist websites and overload them with the "message of peace."
When this happens, I will believe that A.) They exist, and B.) they really want this to stop.
But until then, I will see this crap as nothing but deceptive PR.
H, I know that my views are getting borderline. I dont like it, but they keep showing me example after example of why those views may not be too far off. Racism is something I have always deplored, when I lived with my mother in a "welfare appartement" and had many minority friends, I learned never to use race as a qualifier. In the Marines I learned that they guy next to you will save your life reguardless of race/religion. But the rate things have gone, Islam hasnt done much to try and break the mold here. The "moderates" you speak of are too far and few between. They will not fight for what THEY belive in, and instead allow radicals to put a stamp on their religion.
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did you read that post H?
I still dont think Islam as it exists today can ever be moderate. A change in the theology is needed, not moderation of existing interpretation.
yes .. but i really feel that you need to read the words of those that are muslims to judge G .. i dont feel that outside looking in is any kind of rule
the majority of muslim clerics teach peace .. sadly it is the minority that get all the press
and as i have said many times .. you can take any meaning you want from the texts and many people have warped the view
for every nasty word people claim to be in the quran i have seen just as many that talk of peace and how wrong it is to take a life .. any life
these people who dont see that are not true muslims .. they are warped G ..
the logic applied to muslims these days is very similar to the logic some feminists apply to men
99 % of murders are comitted by men
99% of rapes are committed by men
so therefore ALL men are evil
no the fact is the terrorists are using a warped version of islam .. you really really need to seperate these groups from the faithfull believers who have no desire to take over the world
anymore then you desire to bring about revelations
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Ok, H... lets sit on this one and see how much of an impact the "moderate" muslims have. I am not sure what support you are wanting them to get from folks... but I tell you what. If they really do not condone this stuff, then lets see them start cutting off finances and support. Lets see them start issuing more Fatwas (spelling). Not just one a year or so, but like one a week against this stuff. Let see some webcasts of their own. Lets see them hit the extremist websites and overload them with the "message of peace."
When this happens, I will believe that A.) They exist, and B.) they really want this to stop.
But until then, I will see this crap as nothing but deceptive PR.
G if you sit on this one and do nothing but complain then as you say .. nothing will change
you know G i am white / western / non religious
and i hate to say this but with your attitude to the moderates being on the verge of racsist
i would not be suprised if they join up with the extremists you think they are
and then you will say "see i told you" and not even spot that you had something to do with it
H, I know that my views are getting borderline. I dont like it, but they keep showing me example after example of why those views may not be too far off. Racism is something I have always deplored, when I lived with my mother in a "welfare appartement" and had many minority friends, I learned never to use race as a qualifier. In the Marines I learned that they guy next to you will save your life reguardless of race/religion. But the rate things have gone, Islam hasnt done much to try and break the mold here. The "moderates" you speak of are too far and few between. They will not fight for what THEY belive in, and instead allow radicals to put a stamp on their religion.
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