Somebody hand Cheney dictionary please !
At least 58 people have been killed in a suicide bomb attack in the town of Musayyib , for those keeping count that is four more then died in London (is this getting coverage on you TV ? )
today's attack comes on the back of a string of others recently15 July: Suicide bombs kill 16
13 July: Bomb kills 26 children
10 July: 20 army recruits killed
26 June: 35 die in Mosul attack
25 June: Suicide attacks kill 23
20 June: Several attacks, 31 dead
2 June: Multiple bombs kill 24
30 May: 27 dead in Hilla
11 May: 70 dead in Tikrit, Hawija
4 May: Irbil bombing kills 60
on route to suicide
Police in London released this CCTV image of the 4 British suicide bombers at Luton train station , the back backs carry the deadly explosives.
the calm expressions on the faces give no clue that they and 54 others are only hours from death
FBI: Missing the newest trend in terrorism?
By John Loftus, President of The Intelligent Summit
Special Agents in the street grumble that Al Qaeda is evolving again, while the Bureau's bosses pat each other on the back over yesterday's victories. Al Qaeda was a different beast before. First it was an alumni organization, recruiting combat veterans who had been schooled in the Afghan wars. Once the school rosters fell into American hands, the alumni were systematically hunted down, captured or killed. Good work.
But while the FBI applauded itself, Al Qaeda switched over to its second tier of recruits. Waiting in the wings were members of nationalist groups like the Moroccan madmen who bombed Madrid or the Jordanian fanatics of Al Zarqawi. These second tier terrorists were more like Kentucky Fried Chicken franchisees: they were independent operators who only borrowed the Al Qaeda name but were not subject to Al Qaeda control. As the EU and Arab states consolidate their anti-terror operations, the franchise terrorists are slowly becoming neutralized, isolated or exterminated. Ask Iraq.
In desperation, Al Qaeda has now devolved into its third iteration: a teenage fan club whose members correspond with each other over the internet as if they are playing a video game. But, as the London subway passengers discovered last July, sometimes the video games are a deadly dress rehearsal for the real thing.
For too long, western intelligence has dismissed the third tier of recruits as kiddy crime, the harmless posturing of Al Qaeda wannabees. The teens' twin terrorist organizations, Hizb ut-Tahrir and Al Mujaharoun ("Hut/Muj" for short) were laughed at as propaganda outlets of Sheik Bakri, a harmless little lunatic based in London at the Finsbury Mosque. But, as Bakri himself admits, during the 1990's both he and his assistant worked with the British Secret Intelligence Service setting up the Kosovo Liberation Army. They are not exactly virgins at recruiting kids to kill.
Hut/Muj usually targets 15 to 19 year olds, and indoctrinates them with private religious lessons for several years. Their na?ve ?migr? parents think the kids are going to some sort of Islamic Sunday school, while they are actually attending Bin Laden's version of the Hitler Youth. After several years of bonding and brain washing, the kids, now in their early twenties, are ready for terrorist operations. Some live near you.
Hut/Muj cells have spread like a cancer to California, New York, Virginia and Oregon. Despite the fact that local police have made several arrests for planned subway bombings and terrorist training, the FBI still laughs the whole Hut/Muj phenomenon off. This, the feds assert, is protected freedom of speech, mosque based religious education, entirely harmless. That is what the British used to say before 7/7. The mental calendar of the FBI's top leadership seems permanently stuck on 9/10. It is time they faced a clear and present danger.
Thankyou for posting this 'IS' , There is very little in the post that i would disagree with
with one exception , the statement "That is what the British used to say before 7/7."
not quite so in my view , as presented in this article from the London times newspaper
Abu Qatada is a perfect example of not fully understanding your enemy ,
My view is after the events of 9/11 the british SIS were to keen to place trust in potential informers that turned round and did bite them back
Lets hope the lessons have been learnt
LAST THROWS ??
Nine suicide bombs rock Baghdad
At least 20 people have been killed and almost 100 wounded in a wave of suicide bomb attacks in the Iraqi capital.
The nine attacks across Baghdad used cars and motorbikes loaded with explosives to target security forces.
Iraq's military bore the brunt, with attacks in quick succession on patrols in the north and city centre Here
another major attack inside the claimed safe "green zone" .. did somebody say last throws ?
In Dick Cheneys speak. Maybe "last throes" means raging out of control!
London Attack . Chemist found, Eygpt and US Linked
The "chemist" who the police claim made the explosives for the London Boming has been arrested (at british request) by the police in egypt
the FBI have been asked by Scotland yard to investigate the claim that Magdi Mahmoud al-Nashar spent time studying at a university inside the US
what the news doesn't appear to be saying (yet) is that the explosives found have been defined as "TATP" the very same chemical's as used by Richard Reed (the shoe bomber) and as yet still undectable by normal scanning methods
A house in leeds (England) has been raided and with trace samples taken and has been confirmed as a match (ie the London bomb's were made at this house) Here
Magdi is under interrogation in egypt by british MI6 officers has denied having any connection to the attacks
I''ll be back. Later :)
Ok , i will leave the key under the mat for you :-)
Letter from the insurgents
this isnt a news story just my thought for the day
I have come accross a letter to "the british people" from the insurgents in iraq being posted on a large number of web sites since the 8th of july .(the day after the London attack)
the letter does not claim that they had anything to do with the horrific attack's on london the day before ,if they did then i would not be discussing them here and i would be calling the authority's
(whom i am sure already know considering the the first web site that actually did claim responsibilty was closed down within 10 mins of posting) .
I have no more support for what the insurgents do then i do for what the US and UK administrations have done to iraq
(i may understand what motovate's the insurgents but i would never endorse it)
the letter is the what you would expect (the other side of the argument put forward by bush and blair) which doesn't personally offend me here living in London , and i for one see no reason not to publish it
.especially as "freedom of speech" is one of those things we are ment to be defending
but the flip side is however open minded and not easily offended by "words" that i am , i do understand that some people are not able to see the bigger picture
they honestly dont see the connection when we say why is it that the children killed in iraq this week don't get the same coverage as those poor soul's that lost there lives in london . some people find a way to twist and turn that thought into some idea that you just said something bad.
to me that is ignorance . but ignorance is not something we should punish . It hurts alot when you are the victim of "terrorism" i myself had 2 very close calls from bomb's exploded by the IRA and to lose a loved one that way is beyond comprehension.
what doesnt translate in some people is that hurt must be the same from the other side and the families of those that died dont care if it was a terrorist or a cluster bomb fired by the US or British army . they care that someone they love is dead and quiet naturally they hate the side that did it
so out of respect for those that don't understand . i have decided (it wasnt an easy decision) not to publish the letter ( though it is easy to find if you wish to search for it ) and anyone who can't find it and want's the link email me and i will send you a link to a random one of the 200 or so web sites that are already posting it
as an after thought it's a strange world were the publication of "words" risk's creating so much offence but the deaths of thousands of innocent people barely makes it onto the news....
Save your life , wear a uniform
The Iraqi government said Thursday far more civilians than soldiers or police were killed in violence over the first six months of this year.
In June, Interior Minister Bayan Jabr told the AP in an interview that 12,000 Iraqi civilians had been killed over the past 18 months
"We suspect that an average of 100 bodies end up in hospitals every week, none of which are counted or identified,"
last throws ? Here
You Kill , We Kill
Israeli helicopters have fired missiles at targets in the Gaza Strip as what seem's to be a revenge attack after an Israeli woman is killed by a Palestinian rocket . The rocket attack Hamas said was carried out in revenge for the killing of an Islamic Jihad leader by the Israeli army in Nablus. BBC
this tit for tat battle again highlights the urgency of the problem in Gaza but the world governments seem under the constant illusion that this issue will just go away
Israel is one big mess. They will be the center of the problem when the shit finally does hit the fan.
And this is not in any way an anti semitic statement.
It is however an anti zionist statement.
it always suprises me how the "anti semtic" issue alway's comes up when ever there is the slightest critism of israel
no other nation on earth is allowed that right ..
when a "terrorist" attack happens in london the first thing people say is "muslim" not criminal not murderer but "muslim"
and it's amazing how those that have a valid complaint about israel's behaver go quite as soon as they mention the "anti semitic" word
even me , when putting that article up am trying "to hard" not to sound "anti semitic"
thats absurd .. i have no argument with any religion
i judge israel (like any other country) on it's actions not on it's faith
but who can blame them .. if they know that almost all critism will vanish if they say that word . then by god they will keep saying it.
it's facts that matter . if they act responsibly the world should praise and if they act like a angry child then the world should condem
politics and religion dont mix
"We didn't kill those kids" Al-Qaeda say
Al Qaida in Iraq purportedly issued a statement denying it was behind a horrific attack on a poor east Baghdad neighbourhood that killed 18 children and teenagers.
"We, al Qaida organisation in Iraq, announce that we are not in the least responsible for the New Baghdad operation that took place on Wednesday," said a statement posted and signed by Abu Maysara al-Iraqi, al Qaida spokesman.
as you might imagine this story is a little hard to track down as most of the main media outlets are not reporting it but a few details can be found Here
upadte: more translation from the latest statement
"We in the Organisation of Al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia announce that we have no link whatsoever to the operation in new Baghdad, which took place Wednesday,"
"Our way in the Al-Qaeda organisation of fighting the enemies of God, the Crusaders and their tails of (Iraqi) army and police, is well known,"
"Our Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who supervises personally all operations from planning to execution, is very keen on making sure that ordinary people are not targeted,When the Crusaders gathered following the attack, another penetrated the crowd and detonated an explosives-belt"
"'No more Bush-it.' "
A man arrested in downtown Houston last year for carrying a sign criticizing President Bush filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday, accusing police of violating his free-speech rights
Chris Kelly, 43, is suing officer David Weaver, 37, 10 unidentified officers and an unidentified supervisor for arresting him and issuing a misdemeanor citation listing his offense as "Carrying a poster bearing the legend 'No more Bush-it.' "
Kelly, who said he was a salesman before becoming disabled, said Wednesday that he was surprised the officers appeared unaware of the constitutional right to free speech.
"I thought that police officers would be the first ones instructed on understanding that this is one of the gifts our country gives us," he said. Full story here
you know once in a while I have to close my eyes and remember this is the United States of America , Not china or north korea ! how can Bush stand up and say...
"America is a Nation with a mission - and that mission comes from our most basic beliefs. We have no desire to dominate, no ambitions of empire. Our aim is a democratic peace - a peace founded upon the dignity and rights of every man and woman. "
erm ok george .. you missed the bit about that not applying to the dignity and rights of your own people
it seems we have come along way since Franklin D. Roosevelt said to the american people
"Four freedoms: The first is freedom of speech and expression - everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of everyone to worship God in his own way, everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want . . . everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear . . . anywhere in the world."
MOD asks permission to devalue human life
"Can the Government give serious consideration for the British armed services to opt out - like the French forces - from our commitment to the European Convention on Human Rights?"
so we claim we are fighting for freedom and democracy and for human rights .
if we opt out of the convention on human rights we are becoming what we claim we are fighting
since the start of the war in Iraq i have heard far to many stories from credited and respected journalists of innocent people being shot for a simple acts such as hanging their washing out to dry at the wrong time
some nervous soldier shouts "sniper" and next thing the inocent is dead
the only recourse the innocents family has against british forces is the convention (if you are killed by US forces your family has no recourse at all)
If this is what the Ministry of Defence wants then this it what the Ministry of defence will get , of that i am sure
but remember accidents do happen in battle and entire families can be destroyed by the split second reaction of a soldier and without justice why wouldnt that family want to "hit back" at those that did this .
to claim to be defending "human rights" by taking away the "human rights" of those we claim to be defending is orwellian to the extreme
do we really need to explain to those in power the obvious cycle of event's that makes someone turn to extremist actionsHere
The ones in power are very aware as to how these extremists are made. It fits into their plan. And this is a perfect scenario for them, a war with no boundaries that will not end anytime soon. Unless the citizens of these aggressor countries speak up, and take their government back!
The defense contractors were the ones who were hurt most by the end of the cold war. Now they got their greedy little claws into this newest aggression of the ages, they won't give it up so easily.
Oh yeah, and the Bush family and bush&co. all have stakes in defense contracting. Just google 'the carlyle group'.
yea , probably the biggest culprit for the deaths of thousands of innocents is the twisted group calling itself "the project for the new american century"
for those that dont know , the membership list includes
Elliott Abrams,Gary Bauer William J. Bennett,Jeb Bush,
Dick Cheney,Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter,Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes,Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama,Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle,Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad,I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz,Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman,Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen,Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber,George Weigel and Paul Wolfowitz
the document they released in 1997 is shocking , it is a pathatic attempt to justify empire building and is although people are angry right now about the "downing street memo" it is clear that the decision to invade Iraq was made in 1997 in this document
they dont even deny it
you can still read the words that set the world into so much chaos at their webset
I'm glad you brought that up. PNAC is not so much a group as it is an ideology. It is the brain child of a neo-conservative think tank.
It is a blue print for globalization, zionism and eventually the enslavement of the entire human race. PNAC is very real, and in effect right now!
However, if you browse through PNAC's contents, one of the first things you will see is the necessity of these "major theater wars" in the middle east. Only problem is they are supposed to be won decisively convincingly i.e.;
"Shock & Awe"
The funny thing (if any) is the fact that they are already blowing the first part of their plan. There has been nothing convincing nor decisive about this "war on terror". I think part two of PNAC's plan involves Iran and Syria.
Any human of reasonable intelligence can see this one coming a mile away. For Pete's sake! They spelled it out for all to see, it's just a matter of looking at the evidence!
Ignorance is bliss and apathy runs rampant (at least in the USA).
very true and accurate ,
what is so amusing is that they seem to base "shock and awe" on the german Blitzkrieg and the concept of global domination of the british empire of the 18th/19th century both clear examples are philosphies that failed and failed big time
to use hitlers "mein kemp" as a model is alone shocking enough
but to try to emulate the british empire and the sickness that ranges from slavery to enforced starvation is deeply disturbing
what we(the british) did to the Irish is insain
what i say is thank god for history , for without the wisdom of history i would be in despair
for we know something that they obviously (despite the billions of dollars invested)
we know it is destined to fail as every empire building crackpot dictatorship has since time began
from Ghengis khan to Nazi Germany to modern day iraq , it never goes quite the way the nutters planned it
and thank god for that . for if they werent getting it so typically wrong there is very little we could do to stop them
Britain , Europe and much of the world will stand still for 2 mins today at midday , planes won't fly , TV's wont broadcast even trains won't move .. just for 2 mins
it's become a tradition and is seen as a moment to reflect and show respect to those that have died (in this case the 52 people killed in the london attack)
I am not one to break tradition and some people do need something like this to be able to move on.
although it has entered my mind of what it would be like if we showed the same respect to everyone in the world who has died in this "war on terror" and after each new death we repeated this gesture , it would be like time standing still . i have yet to understand why Place of birth = value of life .
"There are some things which cannot be learned quickly, and time, which is all we have, must be paid heavily for their acquiring. They are the very simplest things, and because it takes a man's life to know them the little new that each man gets from life is very costly and the only heritage he has to leave"
everyone deserves his time . i wonder how many today will pay equal thought to all those needless deaths , in a perfect world they all would Here
I wish everlasting peace to all those who have suffered or lost family in any attack, wether it is state sponsored or terrorist. It does not diminish the fact that innocent civilians are the ones that it usually effects.
The 2 minutes in europe just seem to "generic" for me.
What about the children who died in Iraq this week?
How about Dafur? Why when there is a so called terrorist attack in USA or Europe everyone rushes to wrap themselves in their prospective flags, a few moments of silence, a course or two of "god bless america" or "God save the Queen". Are we so high and mighty above the rest of the world?
Why would god choose to bless America? If such a god exists, I don't doubt he would punish the USA right off the map.
And god save the Queen! This is to funny. Please tell me what exactly the Royal's have done for any Brits? Or any humans for that matter. Plus the Royal's have more than enough money that they don't need to trick the public into asking God to bless them, they can buy all the blessings they want.
God bless the Innocent victims of our fucked up foreign policy's. The children who die from our sanctions, the people with no voice of their own. The people caught up in this "war on terror". The people who's country is now soaked in depleted uranium. They will continue to suffer and die long after this farce ends.
We pretend to be civilized, we are anything but!
British man" Mastermind behind 7/7 attack"
the The times
is also claiming that one of the recruit's was a "primary school teaching assistant" .
the normal lives these bomber's led until this point should make you question . why ?
it seem's to some the answer is obvious but for those that are able to influence our policies . they refuse to even make the connection .
The daily News is made up of British politician's claiming they are "shocked" that the suicide bomber's were british and at the same time the British people (as you can see by the lack of reaction in london to the bombing) have been expecting and predicting this since 2002
i cant remember when the gap of understanding between government and people has been so wide as it is now
I wonder what they will call it.
The British version of the patriot act that is. Because if you step back and take a look at how 7/7 is unfolding. They are really just paving the way to take some of your rights away.
Exactly what happened here in the United states. The need to forfeit some of your "unalienable rights" in the name of the war on terror.
Sorry if I sound like some conspiracy nut, but mark my words, and I totally hope I am wrong.
Bush&co. are presently trying to make the patriot act permanent as it is temporary right now. But trust me, it is not a good thing no matter how they spin it. We are leaning dangerously close to becoming a Fascist state!
i totally agree , the steps that have already been taken over here are very scary .
even before the attack the debate (ironic you may say) was about the introduction of ID cards
there was talk in the press about biometric data or DNA being kept on the cards
this motion was very nearly defeated in parliament and has yet to pass through the second chamber "the house of lords" (hmm you may say)
just as a small snippet you may have already heard , london has more CCTV cameras then anywhere else on earth
there is 2 things they say about london .
one is that you can't go more then a mile without being filmed by at least 20 camera's
the other is that "you are never more then 6 feet away from a rat"
but i won't digress
on a personal note i just re-read Orwell , including the obvious 1984
, i last read 1984 about 10 years ago and its scary to see how much has changed in society in those 10 years. we are moving towards that type of world at an alarming rate
on conspiracy's i have always felt that being a minority of one doesnt make you wrong .
People easily forget that Galileo was considered a consperacist for claiming "the world is round"
even einstein (possibly the greatest mind of all time) thought those few people talking about Quantum Mechanics at the time were crazy .. today it is accepted the einstein was wrong
for me a the important thing is logic ie does it make sense
and though (like you) i wish you were wrong , i am afraid , you make sense
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Downing street Lists all al-qaeda attacks since 1993
the British government has just released a new document
one day after the confirmation of the first ever suicide bombers to hit western europe ,one day after the tragic news that the London Bombers were home grown .
now maybe i am a little cynical but "they" wouldnt be trying to convince us that there isn't a connection between last thursdays horrific attack and our policy on iraq
it's not like the BBC
"Downing Street are clearly trying to make the point that these attacks were being carried out by Islamic extremists well before the military action in Afghanistan or Iraq"
oops they did say that
of course nobody could claim there is a failure to mention any attacks on Afghanistan or Iraq..
oh .. i see ...
there is no mention of Iraq or Afghanistan at all . hmm maybe we are not fighting "terrorists" there at all
anyway . without further delay lets go straight to Downing street
for the latest news
hang on a second Tony ! If there has not been any "significant terrorist attacks" in Iraq or Afghanistan then can all the troops come home ?
I'm surprised to see them digging so deep! Some of those so called "terrorist" attacks were at best pretty questionable.
And they forgot the most obvious one of all.
2002-Present. Invasion of Iraq, a sovereign nation.
Thousands and thousands killed!
"Could a media system, controlled by a few global corporations with the ability to overwhelm all competing voices, be able to turn lies into truth?..."Orwell Rolls In His Grave
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Is this the democratic freedom we are fighting for ?
"An Arizona Army National Guardsman whose Web log comments have criticized the Iraq war and who has filed papers to run for the U.S. Senate seat held by Jon Kyl, is the subject of a military investigation in Iraq"
its clear to me that freedom of speech means you can say what you want as long as its exactly what we want you to say. read more Here
Did someone say WMD .... at least the Hawks won't have far to invade
New evidence suggests that Soviet agents could have concealed nuclear and biological weapons of mass destruction inside the United States and other Western countries
They had only just started out in life
26 children , lives ripped apart and all so young , in one day there lives change from the next possible Nobel prize winner to just another statisticHere And here
It still amazes me that this isn't front page news. If it happens in Britain or USA it's the end of the world. But when it occurs on a daily basis in what was once a sovereign nation, well thats just not news for the MSM.
Michael Jackson owes some money, now that is news. Oh yeah how can i forget, I learned on the news this morning that Brad Pitt is sick in the hospital. Never mind that 26 innocent Iraqi children were killed today, Brad has the flu!
Well needless to say my heart goes out to all the innocents who have needlessly suffered as a result of this aggression.
Today's journalists are a bunch of yellow, spineless, cowards. Much like the chicken hawks that continue to run this world into the ground.
no known links to terrorism but tragic none the less .At least 150 die in Pakistan crash
LAHORE, Pakistan -- Three trains have collided in southern Pakistan Wednesday morning, killing at least 150 people and injuring 800 more, police and railway officials have said CNN
I have been following the story for about an hour and it seems certain that by the time you read this the number of people killed will have grown
Latest US Poll
Washington, Jul 12 (Prensa Latina) A survey carried out by Gallup pollsters revealed 54 percent of the US public believe the invasion of Iraq has made their country more vulnerable to terrorist attacks.
According to the poll, 12 percent believed the country was very likely to be attacked in coming weeks, while 43 percent said it was probable, and 53 percent believe it was not worth going to war with Iraq.
The increase in Iraqi rebel actions and US casualties in the Arab nation has triggered harsh domestic criticism, even within Republican ranks.
I dont have any more stat's then this at the moment so i can't tell you how many people were asked or the precise date(s) the survey was taken . So from most angles this info is probably useless (like every other poll ever taken ) but if the Image is anything to go by it's Bert all the way to the Whitehouse and by the look on Bush's Face it does make you wonder if Karl Rove is just out of shot
EEK ! i am linking my worst nightmares here .. George bush and sesame street . a sure sign it is time to goto bed
Bert for president!
First Galloway Now Another British Member of Parliament makes connection
CHARLES Kennedy, the Liberal Democrat leader, last night suggested that the "mishandling" of the Iraq war had created an environment for terrorism to flourish.
Politicians in the UK from all the main parties have so far gone to great lengths to avoid linking the London attacks with the war
"We have to recognise the occupation of Iraq by the multinational force itself contributes to the insurgency and attracts those from abroad who see the opportunity to spread violent fundamentalism ... And the terrorists certainly will not shrink from using Iraq to increase resentment and as fodder for recruitment." The Scotsman
Slowly . oh so slowly the facts begin to click
London Bombs May Have Been Suicide Attacks says ABC 7 News
infact the interesting point in this article is the first mention of a name
"One bomber was thought to be Shahzad Tanweer, a 22-year-old cricket-loving sports science graduate, and another was a teenager, the British news agency Press Association reported"
Jeremy Shapiro, director of research at the center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution, said "europeans had been involved in suicide attacks in the Mideast, but he knew of no suicide bombings in Western Europe previously"
other links around the world to this story
The Horror in London
Eric MargolisForeign Correspondent / Defense Analyst & Columnist
"We are horrified that anyone would attack innocent civilians packed in subway cars. But the extremists and fanatics who do so say they are exacting revenge for the 500,000 Iraqi civilians who died, (confirmed by the UN), from the ten year US-British embargo of Iraq."
"For the criminal destruction in 1991 of Iraq’s water and sewage treatment plants that cause massive cholera and typhoid. Or for the occupation of Iraq and destruction of the city of Falluja that killed tens of thousands more civilians, and, of course, for Palestine."
"we saw the frightful TV footage from the London bombing but no footage at all of the destruction of an entire Afghan village just days before by the US"Read in full Here
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London Bombing's key facts at a glance
It is of note that although the british media has jumped on the suicide bomber thread(me included) the actual confirmed facts released by the British Police today are as follow's ... to most in the media reading these facts . the conclusion can only be one thingTHE OFFICIAL FACTS
All four suspects are British nationals. Three of the four are from West Yorkshire
All four were captured on CCTV at King's Cross station, wearing rucksacks, shortly before 0830 BST on the morning of the attacks. The footage was found on Monday night
One suspect was reported missing by his family. Some of his belongings were found on the No 30 bus in Tavistock Square
Property linked to a second man was found at the scene of the Aldgate/Liverpool Street bomb
Items belonging to a third suspect were found at the site of the Aldgate/Liverpool Street and Edgware Road bombs
It is very likely the three men whose belongings were found at the bomb scenes are dead, police sources say
Questions remain over the identity of the fourth bomber. Police do not know if he was killed at King's Cross or has fled
One man has been arrested in West Yorkshire and is being questioned in London. He is believed to be related to one of the suspected bombers
Police have searched the homes of three of the four suspects in West Yorkshire
Six search warrants were executed in the Leeds area on Tuesday. A controlled explosion has been carried out in the Burley area
A significant amount of explosive material has been found at an address in Leeds
The men boarded a Thameslink train from Luton to King's Cross. A car in Luton, which has been the subject of three controlled explosions, is connected to the inquiry
It is not yet clear how the three suspects from West Yorkshire made their way to Luton
More than 1,000 calls have been made by the public to an anti-terrorist hotline. Police have studied 2,500 CCTV tapes
Arrests over London bomb attacks(breaking news)
Arrests have been made in Yorkshire after the suspected London bus bomber leads anti-terror police to make raids in Leeds and Luton.
In Leeds a controlled explosion was carried out by army bomb disposal experts to gain access to a house, as part of a search of six premises.
Update: "all 4 bombers suicide bomber's" ," all 4 were british"
further update : "bomber's obviously dead" all 4 met up at kings cross at 8:30 am on day of bombing"
houses of the bombers have been raided ... 6 arrest warrent's issued for the rest of the cell .. documents that belong to 3 of the bomber's found at bomb site's .... seems that some kind of chemical has been found at the house ....
Police state " NO direct al-qaeda connection " all 4 bombers "clean skins"
This is british people angry at our policies .. this is the proof (as if we needed any) that bush n blair's "war on terror" is creating more "Terrorist's" then they are killing
it can't be emphasized enough .. British suicide Bombers is HUGE news .. there will be a backlash nowHere And Here
I am hesitant to except this newest explanation. Partly because the story has varied so much.
On the other hand; if the perpetrators were jihad, and they did kill themselves in the attacks. Then what harm would a full thorough government investigation be? Didn't Phoney Blair claim any such investigation would hinder them in there pursuit of the suspects?
What a tangled web!
they will have to hold an investigion now
news is updating so fast
it is becoming clear that this is the UK's first HOME GROWN suicide bombers .. unthinkable before iraq
unlikely any links to al-qaeda at all (apart from the fact that these guys admired osama)
as i posted on daily dissent last week i feel that the government will regret admitting this was suicide bombers ... its going to blow back in there faces now
on Blair and the investigation to be fare (and i hate being fare cuz Blair needs to go) but what he said is "that the security services should not have an internal investigating while the are trying to catch the bombers" now they have done so.. there will be an investigation
I can't help but think the government is so very complicit in these attacks. And that is why they keep contradicting themselves every step of the way. These "suicide bomber's" may just be shills. Just like 9/11 the government played out some confusing subway bomb scenarios at the same time and same location as the real bombs. What kind of coincidence is that? Same as 9/11; Scenarios which included hijacked planes flying into buildings and civilian and military targets just happened to be scheduled for that particular morning. How very freaking convenient for any would be terrorists. Coincidence? Please.
I take your point and it's a point that is not easy to dismiss .. with the information that has come up re 9/11 there is NO DOUBT that the government was invovled
if the same applies here then the fact's will come out .. we will find it
but regardless .. suicide bombers in the UK are a direct response of British people to the actions of tony blair
HE made them so angry that they felt they needed to do that
HE is responsible and right now i am sure he knows it
as the News is sinking in . i can't help feeling this is the worst possible news for Tony Blair
he surely wanted the bomber's to be foreign and to be "al-qaeda"
the fact these guy's wer'e british just proves that he . and he alone(in this country) is responsible for the 52 deaths
.. what makes 4 guy's from Yorkshire (of all places) decide to end their lives this way
they obviously had some help
(see daily dissent regarding the military grade explosives used)
there is alot more information to come yet
US troops ordered to avoid London
"We are concerned about the safety of our folks and are trying to do what we can to protect them
Details of the travel ban, enforced on Friday, emerged as US President George W Bush said the US would "not retreat in the face of terrorists" .
full story Here
this is crazy .. trained to fight in any theatre of war in the world . but a trip to buckingham palace and big ben is to dangerous
sometimes i think the world governments actually believe their own hype
"London bombers are alive and planning another attack,"
BRITAIN’S terrorist alert has been raised to its highest-ever level because the London rush-hour bombers are alive and planning another attack, The Times has learnt.
is this an Exclusive or scare story ? read more Here
Yeah, and they live on Downing street.
Another day,another town,another Bomb (Breaking News)
A bomb hidden in a dustbin has exploded in the capital of the island of Trinidad and Tobago, wounding at least 14 people, officials say Here
the "best recruiting sergeant for al-Qaeda"
Sir Ivor Roberts, Britain's Ambassador to Italy, declared last September that the "best recruiting sergeant for al-Qaeda" was none other than the U.S. President, George W. Bush.Read More Here
Iraqi death's could be as high as 40,000
Nearly 40,000 Iraqis have been killed as a direct result of combat or armed violence since the US-led invasion, a figure considerably higher than previous estimates,
a Swiss institute reported. The public database Iraqi Body Count, by comparison, estimates that between 22,787 and 25,814 Iraqi civilians have died since the March 2003 invasion, based on reports from at least two media sources Here
Nine building workers have died in Iraq after being arrested on suspicion of insurgent activity and then left in a closed metal container
why do so many of the death's in Iraq seem preventable ?
yet more heartbroken families .. there is no reason for this to happen
Al-Qaeda, Taliban teaming up
A resurgent al-Qaeda terror network has teamed up with Taliban militants in Afghanistan to unleash a wave of attacks which have killed about 600 people this year, a senior government minister saidRead more Here
16 people killed, 20 injured in a blast in Russia MOSCOW : Sixteen people were killed and 20 others injured in a blast in a shop, in Ukhta, a town in the Russian republic of Komi, Northern Urals.
''The explosion occurred at 1358 hours local time (1530 hrs IST) today,'' a spokesman for the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.
A fire started in the shop 'passage' after the explosion. The causes of the explosion were being investigated
when you run out of theories you start again at the beginning
Bombing probers hunt British cell
Recruit pattern is emerging, specialists say Boston Globe
Allawi: this is the start of civil war
“The problem is that the Americans have no vision and no clear policy on how to go about in Iraq,” said Allawi, a long-time ally of Washington.Times Online
Prison Breakout in Afghanistan
"They all have short hair, long beards and are wearing yellow prison clothes," said Kaber Ahmad.
erm right .. ok Here
Iran "press" blame West for blasts
"the US had to create an atmosphere of terror and insecurity in London so that the G8 leaders would endorse their belligerent policies like the occupation of Iraq. "
full story Here
First london victim named as toll rises
The first victim of the London bombs has been named, as the confirmed number of dead has been raised to 52.
full story from the BBC
Assault on Iraqi army checkpoint
Gunmen have attacked an Iraqi army checkpoint north of Baghdad, killing seven soldiers BBC
US finds body of missing commando
The body of a US special forces soldier who disappeared in Afghanistan has been found, the US military has confirmed.Link to BBC
Death toll 'likely to remain at 49'
Police have given a likely final death toll of around 49 for last Thursday's terror attacks in London.
All visible bodies have been removed from the four blast sites although rescue workers were continuing to search
Learning Democracy From the Russians
"if countries were to restrict democratic liberties in response to attacks, we would be giving a great gift to the terrorists themselves because they are aiming exactly for that. They want to use the instruments of democratic society to destroy democracy."
full story The moscow times
U.K. Releases Terror Suspects
CBS news is reporting that the three "terror" suspects held today by Police in london have been released. The individuals "all British citizens" were arrested at Heathrow airport
full story from CBS
Police follow North African connection
Here is the latest theory of who the attackers are , does this deserve any more attention then any of the others .. only time will tellLondon's Independent
why doesn't this get coverage !
Yet another suicide bomber Hit Iraq today , Nearly as many inocent's killed as last Thursday's horrific London bombing , is it on your television ?More info Here
Some images from the London Bombing 7/7